ebikes on the Shore

https://www.ziv-zweirad.de/ziv-marktdaten-fahrraeder-und-e-bikes-2023-die-zahlen-im-detail/

average ebike price was nearly 3k eur

E-MTB: 39 % (2022: 38 %)

E-Trekkingräder: 25 % (2022: 28 %)

E-Cityräder: 21 % (2022: 24 %)

E-Lastenräder (E-Cargobikes): 9 % (2022: 7,5 %)

Rennrad/Gravel/Fitness: 1 % (2022: 1 %)

S-Pedelecs / E-Bike 45: 0,5 % (2022: 0,5 %)

Posted by: Sethimus

germany sold for the first time more ebikes than amish bikes in 2023. exact numbers later in the day

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Yep, the masses love these things. 

I still prefer real mountain bikes myself.

Posted by: tashi

You can ride a steep janky rock face on an EUC? Gnarly roots?

I can’t see these things getting much further than groomed bermfests but I’m wrong about all kinds of things so who knows. To me they seem like 2024’s Mountain Board.

This was to my surprise as well. I pulled over to see how they would roll down the little rock outcropping toward the bottom of Expresso. They easily sent the steep part of the rock that sends you down with the tree adjacent to your left handlebar. They're basically on a tire that smears the features extremely well.

Posted by: syncro

^^^

It'll be interesting to see the breakdown. I'd guess it'll be far more ecommuter type bikes than emtbs.

Maybe that's true Syncro, but my own anecdotal experience is that it feels like e-stuff is becoming more normative.

Posted by: Henry-Chinaski

Posted by: tashi

You can ride a steep janky rock face on an EUC? Gnarly roots?

I can’t see these things getting much further than groomed bermfests but I’m wrong about all kinds of things so who knows. To me they seem like 2024’s Mountain Board.

This was to my surprise as well. I pulled over to see how they would roll down the little rock outcropping toward the bottom of Expresso. They easily sent the steep part of the rock that sends you down with the tree adjacent to your left handlebar. They're basically on a tire that smears the features extremely well.

I suppose it’s time for some etiquette education and trail org memberships then.

all the numbers, quite some interesting things and trends in there

https://www.ziv-zweirad.de/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/ZIV_Market_Data_Presentation_2024_for_2023.pdf

(english version)

Indeed, most Interesting part is those numbers have jack all to do with E-MTB's.

News that commuter e-bike numbers are climbing however is a great thing. There's even a section there for cargo bike data.

E-MTB purely for recreation, as always, remains a turd burger.

900k emtb to 90k mtb is not what i call a nothing burger…

Turd Ferguson is besmirched 

https://youtu.be/bEghu90QJH4?si=UbIJvIFdUwPqXbIp

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C4wnYDDo7DK/?igsh=dmpwdHQ5b2w4dHE0

Mind you, I don’t ride with someone not on an emtb, cause they’re rude!

Posted by: Henry-Chinaski

Posted by: tashi

You can ride a steep janky rock face on an EUC? Gnarly roots?

I can’t see these things getting much further than groomed bermfests but I’m wrong about all kinds of things so who knows. To me they seem like 2024’s Mountain Board.

This was to my surprise as well. I pulled over to see how they would roll down the little rock outcropping toward the bottom of Expresso. They easily sent the steep part of the rock that sends you down with the tree adjacent to your left handlebar. They're basically on a tire that smears the features extremely well.

I see very few ebikers on janky trails I ride, especially so on Grannies, Bookwus, Crippler and others.  I think that is very telling.  I do, however, see them aplenty at Espresso, Lower Digger, Bobsled, Seventh and Lower Espresso.  Notice a theme?

Posted by: Sethimus

Posted by: Polymath

Posted by: Henry-Chinaski

Posted by: tashi

You can ride a steep janky rock face on an EUC? Gnarly roots?

I can’t see these things getting much further than groomed bermfests but I’m wrong about all kinds of things so who knows. To me they seem like 2024’s Mountain Board.

This was to my surprise as well. I pulled over to see how they would roll down the little rock outcropping toward the bottom of Expresso. They easily sent the steep part of the rock that sends you down with the tree adjacent to your left handlebar. They're basically on a tire that smears the features extremely well.

I see very few ebikers on janky trails I ride, especially so on Grannies, Bookwus, Crippler and others.  I think that is very telling.  I do, however, see them aplenty at Espresso, Lower Digger, Bobsled, Seventh and Lower Espresso.  Notice a theme?

yes, you are an opiniated *ick

Literal man is literal.

Maybe one more post to clarify.

Posted by: Polymath

Notice a theme?

I think the theme is there are lots of e-bikes on the hill.  Don't get me wrong, I could care less if you're riding an e-bike up and down the hill.  I think if you're parading around a full-throttle machine then you've crossed a line.