Oct. 30, 2023, 10:46 p.m. -  Andrew Major

I'd be curious about the pad-rotor compound on the Saints you were riding. Stock? I've owned a few examples of Saint brakes, including the most recent M820, and I'd say there are plenty of systems with better lever feel and more raw power now. Friction itself, of course, comes down to the pads and rotors.   I am interested to see what Shimano's next-generation brakes look like and how they perform. ...... Flat pedals are a hard one as well because they don't come with a bike and the first line of influence is often what a shop stocks.