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Aug. 26, 2023, 5:32 a.m. -  DancingWithMyself

The shorts absolutely are.  RIP Kitsbow, which made great stuff. But the shorts are better and more durable than Kitsbow.  For example, have had Kitsbow seams start to unravel.  Mission Workshop rock solid.   One really nice aspect that wasn't touched on is the waist sizing in 1" increments.  Way easier to get a perfect fit with Mission Workshop.  And the waist adjustment is divine and gives a large range without awkward bunching. I don't think Andrew has explained to us how min-max applies to apparel, but I have a price is not object approach to shorts and liners.  For basic long and short-sleeve tops, I tend buy whatever non-bike-specific, decent quality stuff I can find on sale.   If I had to bet on what I'll still be using a decade from now, I'd probably put my money on these shorts over any bike component I currently own.  The only standard that could make them obsolete is my waist, and I have a fair bit of control over that.  And in may ways a pair of shorts is way more feasible (both technically and economically) to repair than a component.

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